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Poets Talk: Conversations with Robert Kroetsch, Daphne Marlatt, Erin Mour, Dionne Brand, Marie Annharte Baker, Jeff Derksen, and Fred Wah (Currents in Canadian Literature) ReviewWhat a terrific book, and one that should be more widely known on this side of the border, for even though all the poets and both the interviewers are Canadians born and bred, the questions they address are ones that we need to listen to, and very few of us here in the USA are bothering with their construction or phenomenological coming into being. The two interviewers sometimes act as a tag team, and at other times (like Charlie's Angels) split up for more effective coverage and/or investigation. For example, on her own Susan Rudy interviews Fred Wah, perhaps because her partner, Pauling Butling, is married to Wah and maybe wouldn't be unbiassed or something? Although Rudy also shares a certain I don't know, easy familiarity with Wah that makes reading their interview sort of like listening to close country cousins kibbitz.The book begins with a very intense interrogation of Robert Kroetsch, the venerable postmodernist about whom Rudy has written a whole volume already. Kroetsch notes that some people think he's gone too far (outside of grammar) in his "Poem for My Dead Sister," but Butling seems to scoff at such a notion, instead egging him on to prove that his work is any more difficult than, say, Gertrude Stein's. He is forced to quote individual lines from his poem and insist on their opacity, while Rudy and Butling murmur in the background about "Yes, you certainly make it incomprehensible in the reading, or first reading," and a certain skepticism pours through, especially in regards to Kroetsch's gender values, which are mystifying. Good work all around! I don't think that Kroetsch IS indeed as well known in the USA as the editors state in their preface to this interview, despite his having taught at Binghamton for decades. But then again, I'm o expert.
Their interview with Daphne Marlatt is equally focussed: this time they examine Marlatt's book SALVAGE, in which she digs up some of her own work and re-writes it, teasing out the threads of lesbian identity and politics that an earlier discretion or unknowing led her to obfuscate. They seem in general admiring of Marlatt's progress, although they leap at her use of the neologism "Stanzagraph." PAULINE: "What do you mean by stanzagraph?" Good question, for Marlatt was trying to let it slip by as though everyone in the world knew what a stanzagraph is. To me, it's one of those words that didn't need to be, but as Marlatt describes why she came to use it, my sympathies grew as her discourse became more intimate. Maybe that's the secret of all good interviews, they let the person come out more, the figure behind the poem. Though this is exactly what Erin Moure dislikes about interviews, as she admits, and throughout her interview she seems panicky, as though losing part of her heteronymity through having to sit still for an hour while Butling and Rudy try to pin her down.
Pauline Butling's talk with Jeff Derksen ends so abruptly I wondered if one or the other of them had to run out to put money in a parking meter. Also, it is ironic that apparently the University of Alberta couldn't afford a proof-reader to clear up some of the spelling in the book, ironic especially when the black poet Dionne Brand reproves Butling and Rudy (and all white critics and poets) for not knowing enough about black American writers, including Gayl Jones, and then the book misspells Jones' name, as though to underline the point.
But all in all a splendid edition and one longs, not for a sequel, but for a whole encylopedia of Butling and Rudy just talking about anything.Poets Talk: Conversations with Robert Kroetsch, Daphne Marlatt, Erin Mour, Dionne Brand, Marie Annharte Baker, Jeff Derksen, and Fred Wah (Currents in Canadian Literature) Overview
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